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Fast & Furious Hearings Raise More Questions Than Answers
August 1, 2011Printer Friendly | Email |
(GunReports.com) -- The more information that comes out about the reckless Fast and Furious gun running operation conducted by the Phoenix BATFE office, the clearer it seems that knowledge of the operation, and approval for it, went a lot higher than the Phoenix field office, or even the BATFE, the NRA-ILA reports.
There is now clear evidence, uncovered by the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee headed by Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) that senior Obama Administration officials were aware of this disastrous operation.
Last Tuesday, Rep. Issa conducted another round of hearings. Among those who testified were William Newell and William McMahon, BATFE Special Agents who oversaw the program in Phoenix. Those hearings revealed that senior Dept. of Justice officials, including former Deputy Attorney General David Ogden and Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, knew about the program.
Additionally, other federal agencies were identified as having been made aware of the operation, including the IRS, DEA and ICE.
The Committee also heard testimony from four BATFE agents stationed in Mexico during the time Fast and Furious was in operation. All testified they knew nothing of this scheme, in spite of promises from Obama Administration officials, and Obama himself to share all relevant information with Mexican authorities engaged in the fight against the drug cartels.
When asked about the operation, these BATFE agents described it as absurd and ill-conceived, and declared that it was not consistent with established BATFE procedures or methods.
One of the biggest bombshells to come out of the hearing was the revelation that Agent Newell had sent an e-mail, under the subject line You did not hear this from me, to Kevin OReilly, the National Security Director for North America. That e-mail, dated Sept. 2010, included information about Fast and Furious.
After repeated questioning, Newell admitted he had spoken to OReilly about the operation.
This revelation, that a senior White House official knew about the program, combined with the senior DOJ officials listed above, casts serious doubts on claims by Attorney General Holder and even President Obama that they knew nothing about Fast and Furious.
As more is learned about the Fast and Furious operation, two serious questions come to the forefront: Did BATFE abandon standard procedures and methods in this project in order to achieve the political goal of making U.S. gun laws the issue in the war against the Mexican drug cartels? And if so, was it the BATFE that proposed and advanced the scheme, or was it senior political appointees in the Obama administration who wanted to prove that it is American gun freedoms that are causing the violence in Mexico? Stay tuned for more as details continue to emerge.
Slick Willy's fans were able to say "Clinton lied, but nobody died." Now, federal officials have followed his example of lying under oath as well as to the public, but this time, somebody died. Will it be enough to start prosecuting perjurers? Holder should "squeal like a pig"... Holder would seem to deserve that which will cause him to squeal like a pig. But I doubt he will. However, a convincing threat of it might make him rat out his boss! Holder would seem to deserve that which will cause him to squeal like a pig. But I doubt he will. However, a convincing threat of it might make him rat out his boss! Crap! Sorry for the double post.... What did Ogden/Breur/Holder/Obama (take your pick) know, and when did they know it? Simple questions. They require simple answers. Those lead to simple results: resignation or impeachment. Although I question whether we would really want to get rid of Obama in this manner. Why? Three words: President Joe Biden. You all need to check this out. Seems the DEA lit tons of cocain pass through El Paso in hopes to create a fude between the Mexican drug cartels. According to the El Paso Times news paper. http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_18608410?source=most_viewed Its official evedince. Logged in an official court document. I hope someone at the NRA-ILA gets this info. I think I well send it to Rep Issa also. Just for fun. Vis - I agree. Simple questions, simple answers. Of course, I don't think the Obutthead administration has ever given a simple answer to anything. Thanks for the link, Lone-ranger60. Wouldn't it be interesting to know what was going on with all the moving pieces? Apparently there are other agencies involved, connected to the ATF program, and nothing is known of any of that yet. I can't wait to see all this unravel. Maybe this is another 'contras' kind of thing all over again - THAT would not surprise me. It seems to me that at about this point in Nixon's escapades, we saw the appointment of a so-called "Watergate Special Prosecutor". So, when are we going to see the appointment of a "Fast and Furious Special Prosecutor"? Maybe we need to get a couple of bright eyed bushy tailed investigative reporters, like Woodward and Bernstein, interested in this. But, oh yeah, the media are madly in love with BHO and his minions..... This just in the paper today: The Director of the DEA has admitted to knowledge of and participation in F&F, although minimizing such participation. If it was Bush or some other "conservative" in the White House, the Post, the NY Times and most other news outlets would probably be screaming for heads. But, of course, it doesn't work that way when it is their guy's ox that is being gored. Whoever it was that said that consistency is the hobgoblin of a small mind must have had these jokers in mind. "Consistency is the hobgoblin of a small mind". Now that's an interesting concept. And.....it is a pretty debatable concept. While we strive for consistency in the application of such things as justice, parenting, maintenance of order, performance of duty, and others.....we also pay great respect to the so-called "thinking outside the box". I do agree, Visigoth52, that your application of the concept to the "news" media is well placed. An Important Note for GunReports.Com Readers: Our goal on this website is to foster a free expression of views while reining in language that crosses the line of civil discourse. Accordingly, the comments areas are intended to expand the knowledge of all users of this site. But site administrators wish to discourage the use of profanity, insults, disrespect, the advocacy of lawlessness, violence or sedition, or attempts to impinge on the rights of others. While GunReports.Com encourages robust discourse that furthers our understanding of all the issues affecting gun owners, comments that break GunReports.Com’s rules will be removed. In addition, we reserve the right to edit or delete individual comments, and in extreme cases, to ban commenters at our discretion. --Tim Cole To post a comment you must be a registered user of gunreports.com and be logged in. Use one of the forms below to login or register for FREE to gunreports.com
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