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Indiana cities facing changes in state gun laws
September 19, 2011Printer Friendly | Email |
(GunReports.com) -- Indiana's new prohibition on most local gun restrictions has some cities and counties rolling back their ordinances while police must juggle situations such as the commotion caused by a man carrying a holstered handgun on his hip at Evansville's zoo.
Staffers at Mesker Park Zoo called police earlier this month after several visitors complained about the man. The officers reported that the man refused a request to conceal the gun and "started causing a scene" before being escorted out because he was frightening other people.
Police Department spokeswoman Karen Kajmowicz said zoo officials were correct to notify police, even though the man's actions were not against the law. She said if the situation had escalated further, the officers could have arrested the man for disorderly conduct because of his actions toward police and other zoo patrons.
Legislators this spring approved a change in state law to only allow local governments to ban guns from buildings that house courtrooms. Local ordinances banning firearms from other locations, such as libraries and parks, are no longer allowed.
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Maybe the animals at the Evansville Zoo should have their teeth, claws, fangs, horns, hooves, etc. removed because of the illusion of danger. All it takes is one idiot to ruin it for everyone. Hopefully the law will be amended to prohibit such boneheaded irresponsibility, and our ability to carry concealed will be protected I agree that some discretion must be exercised by those who choose to carry a firearm. That is precisely why I always advocate concealed carry. It's too bad that there are so many people who were frightened by this fellow's open carry. Once again, the emotions have overtaken rationale thought.....on all accounts. The people who were frightened at the sight of a man wearing a handgun were behaving irrationally, and the fellow who chose to carry his piece openly should have known that he would likely be stirring up some adverse feelings and reactions. There were no winners in this instance.....only losers. Since I'm a badge-carrier in Indiana I feel qualified to state that this indiv. is not at all typical of the citizens of this state. We have our bad appples(yea, verily DO we!) but most show more sense than this. Besides upsetting the sheeple it tells the B/G's who's packin'. Wrong move. Packin' is one thing you DON'T want to advertise. For my L/E & C/O brothers and sisters and those who legally carry--watch your 6. Indiana is a great state. Do not forego the open or conceal carry. Keep your arms. Do not become like Canada where no one have RIGHTS. Canadians, have no right to protect themselves, show any force or desire to protect, themselves, property, or..... We are greatly, infringed upon. Keep up the FIGHT to bear arms. DId you know, the Mafia Gangsters, and Criminal organizations have more power and influence that does a cop, or law makers. I am disgusted with the actions and activities of Canadian government and the laws imposed upon the citizens. The cost to register firearms in Canada is two plus BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR, and no one wins. We have equal if no more harassment, infringing controls and.... just because we have no Rights. Law Enforcement in Canada are like babysitting service, providing tear drop kleenex for the slightest spat or tear drop. In Canada if we swear at anyone we are seen as irrational, and out of control. Pathetic. Be sure to fight for OPEN AND CONCEALED GUN CARRY. A.E. P> A.E.P., I am a retired law enforcement officer and a proponent of licensed concealed carry. I strongly disapprove of open carry. Except for those employed in securtiy type jobs, I think there is no rational reason to carry open. I believe insistence to openly carry will ruin it for all of us. Therefore, I hope Indiana law is amended to prohibit open carry. Joe R.R. I appreciate your positon concerning open carry, however I do not approve of your position. Although you have experience in the field with those open carry law(s), I would prefer having someone show their sidearm publicly, but forego the concealed. When open carry is displayed you know the person is packing, with concealed carry we do not know.Therefore knowing is better than note knowing. On another note, we all should be trained in firearms displine,thus granting knowledge to those unsure, reassuring those with knowledge. There is stigma of which cause everyone to be liary. Whether you want to or not everyone should have a firearm(s) in thier home for protection. Further people once trained should have a training record card permitting conceal or open carry. Firearms are not all evil~! There are good facts about being able to open carry or conceal carry. I would certainly appreciate a good conversation with you regarding these facts. Canada does not have any laws permitting concealed or open carry. If I want to attend the club for shooting of my firearm, we must have the firearm trigger locked,in a steel case locked, and ammo separately stored. Pathetic. I am very much for open and concealed carry. DO NOT LOSE YOUR SIDE ARMS BY LAW MAKERS> Train and inform your people and the reward will come. I believe that the option of carrying one's handgun concealed or openly is one of personal choice. I prefer concealed carry because it does not call attention to the carrier. Unfortunately, there are many in our society who fear firearms, just because they are ignorant of the benefits of firearms ownership. One might then argue that it is the duty of those who have chosen the armed lifestyle to educate the hoplophobes.....Maybe so. Another reason that I personally prefer concealed carry is because in this mode the bad guys don't know who is carrying and who is not. The possibility that a potential target of criminal activity is armed acts as a deterrent, which benefits even the most anti-Second Amendment left-wingers. Also, openly carrying a handgun can even result in the carrier being the target of a stealth attack by one or more criminals.....for the expressed purpose of stealing the firearm from its' carrier. It is for the reasons I have cited above that I have always carried my pieces concealed, that I continue to do so now, and I always will. Now, once again, that's my personal approach. Others may disagree, and that's fine, but in the final analysis there do seem to be more benefits in concealed carry than in open carry. I agree with the Colonel and Joe. If one is carrying openly he or she is likely to be the first target of any bad guy. But those same people can only wonder and speculate about who may be carrying concealed. My personal opinion is that concealed carry is tactically and strategically a whole lot smarter than open carry. However, I get torqued up by the idea that someone who is carrying openly in full compliance with the law will be hassled by cops just because some chicken-shit bozo gets scared and complains. Sure, the cops have a duty to respond, but no duty to do another damned thing once they know the man is compliant. But they should respond by arresting the person making the call for whatever the charge is called in that locale - for making a nuisance call, e.g. It's de facto harassment of a citizen engaging in a legal action when that happens. I'm sure I'd be cited if I called in 'child abuse in action' because some stupid yuppie woman has her toddler on a leash and halter. Yet that is not 'more legal' than open carry in my state. (Neither is provided for or against in CT law so both are completely OK.) So why should I be told to hide my legally showing weapon or kicked out of some location, while the caller alleging some 'nervousness' gets cops to help her control my behavior while she walks away smug and scot-free? It's just wrong to use police power under false pretexts in order to bully other citizens into behaving as you wish, and in contravention of the law. david b. I completely disagree with you. Open carry is irresponsible. Hopefully the law will be amended to prohibit it. I do not believe the general public will stand for it. I would add my own voice to a call to ban the practice. And make no mistake, the law could be amended and when it is, other friendly carry laws could be jeopardized. And this is the risk created by the Mesker Zoo visitor. Do you think we make friends for gun rights strutting around with a firearm on display? I believe not. Let's use good judgement to preserve Indiana's gun friendly laws. david b. I completely disagree with you. Open carry is irresponsible. Hopefully the law will be amended to prohibit it. I do not believe the general public will stand for it. I would add my own voice to a call to ban the practice. And make no mistake, the law could be amended and when it is, other friendly carry laws could be jeopardized. And this is the risk created by the Mesker Zoo visitor. Do you think we make friends for gun rights strutting around with a firearm on display? I believe not. Let's use good judgement to preserve Indiana's gun friendly laws. david b. I completely disagree with you. Open carry is irresponsible. Hopefully the law will be amended to prohibit it. I do not believe the general public will stand for it. I would add my own voice to a call to ban the practice. And make no mistake, the law could be amended and when it is, other friendly carry laws could be jeopardized. And this is the risk created by the Mesker Zoo visitor. Do you think we make friends for gun rights strutting around with a firearm on display? I believe not. Let's use good judgement to preserve Indiana's gun friendly laws. Davidb, you do propose some very sound, logical arguments in favor of armed citizens carrying their pieces in whatever fashion they may wish, to include open carry. In fact, your arguments are purist in that they challenge the would be bullies' attempts to dictate the behavior of others based upon their own hoplophobic fears. With all of that said, however, and notwithstanding my reasoning presented in my post espousing concealed carry, above, perhaps it is my advanced age that prompts me to carry my handgun as inconspicuously as possible. david b. I completely disagree with you. Open carry is irresponsible. Hopefully the law will be amended to prohibit it. I do not believe the general public will stand for it. I would add my own voice to a call to ban the practice. And make no mistake, the law could be amended and when it is, other friendly carry laws could be jeopardized. And this is the risk created by the Mesker Zoo visitor. Do you think we make friends for gun rights strutting around with a firearm on display? I believe not. Let's use good judgement to preserve Indiana's gun friendly laws. Here HERE to David d. Anyone making complaints against a law abiding firearms of Owner they ought to be charged. The police should not respond if the complaintant is annomous. A.E.P David D. I disagree with you. Do not stand down to the yuppies, Firearms are part of your heritage. Maintain the status. Whether the public will tolerate or not does not matter, if you are law abiding and rightful owner do not back down. STAND YOUR GROUND> We did not stand our ground in Canada and we lost our RIGHTS, be sure to STAND YOUR GROUND> I am trying to move to the USA for some very basic rights that we lost in Canada. By backing down will only allow a foot hold for more complaints, more harassment from YUPPIES, and leftiest. Do not step away from rightful ownership. I can assure you having open carry is smart ethical and normal. A.E.P. http://www.frontsight.com/video/default-youtube.asp?vid=hiring Watch this video A.E.P. An Important Note for GunReports.Com Readers: Our goal on this website is to foster a free expression of views while reining in language that crosses the line of civil discourse. Accordingly, the comments areas are intended to expand the knowledge of all users of this site. But site administrators wish to discourage the use of profanity, insults, disrespect, the advocacy of lawlessness, violence or sedition, or attempts to impinge on the rights of others. While GunReports.Com encourages robust discourse that furthers our understanding of all the issues affecting gun owners, comments that break GunReports.Com’s rules will be removed. 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