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Rabbi Dovid Bendory has some advice for everyone living in an urban setting.
An Open Letter To All Urban Residents –- And Especially Jews
August 14, 2011
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(GunReports.com) -- As most decent people are watching the stock market gyrations and following our federal government’s mismanagement of both monetary and fiscal policy, our nation is entering an unpredictable phase. I’m sorry to say that, based on history, things are going to get worse. Just look at London, England, where four nights of rioting hooligans have resulted in the deployment of an extra 16,000 police officers in an attempt to stop the looting, vandalism, destruction, assaults, and robbery.
My response to “flash mobs?”
GET A GUN.
Get a gun, and learn how to shoot it accurately, under pressure. If you find yourself in a “flash mob,” the police will NOT show up in time to do you a bit of good. These mobs gather in minutes and disburse just as quickly when the first police car arrives. Or worse, they attack the first police officers until backup arrives.
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Gun Reports is getting a bit weird. It used to be a decent publication. Gun Reports is getting a bit weird. It used to be a decent publication. What's "weird" about this article playhookie? I liked it better when GR just tested and gave their opinions and ratings on various firearms, wether I agreed with their conclusions or not. It was helpfull info. I see no merit in this article. playhookie - perhaps you aren't Jewish? If you were, or if you knew any Jews very well, you'd know that this article has it's place in a news round-up. Jews have a long history of suffering violence at the hands of mobs. And the only difference between a 'mob' and a 'flash mob' is the way the event starts out. Do you think the same mobs that decide to beat white folks would stay off someone dressed as a Conservative, or Orthodox, Jew? I don't. I also have to wonder why, sir, if what you want is firearms opinions and ratings, you don't criticize the other news items here. You aren't by any chance anti-Semitic are you? I do see you commenting often on news items that aren't reviews or opinions of firearms - so why complain about just this one? In reality, a lynching was a flash mob. Weren't blacks prohibited from gun ownership so they could be lynched more easily? Jews have long been persecuted, and many are flaming liberals. Urban environments are typically very anti-gun. Thus, this article is significant to the argument that gun control is bad. Now; having said all that, I think a gun in a flash mob is almost useless. Bringing it out will ensure your demise, and provide a mobster with a brand new "gat." Yes, you can take as many with you as possible; but... You are better to keep great situational awareness and stay out of it altogether. David - please don't lynch me for my use of the term "liberal!" ;) P V B - we understand each other about the "L" word, its OK. Most of the regulars here are cognizant of my 'status'. ;-) I have to agree that a gun might be nearly useless, or even dangerous. But unarmed in those recent situations was pretty dangerous too. The thing about a FM is that 'flash' word. It comes together so quickly that your awareness might not be soon enough to get you out of there. So, if you can't get outta dodge, and a gun isn't a really valuable thing to have either, what to do? I sure don't know. One gun might not do squat. But several guns in different locations might make the problem evaporate in a hurry. Or might not. I dunno, and hope I don't ever have to find out. But me, yeah, I'd probably try to take some 'company' along with me if I thought I was gonna die. DavidB I didn't say anything against Jews or anyone else. I don't have a clue as to how you drew that conclusion from my comment. I believe all sane non felon peoples should carry protection if they choose to. It must be obvious anyone who reads GR already does making this story mute. Respectfully, mac. You can't enjoy the freedom of gun ownership without being political. There's a term called 'armchair environmentalists'. We can never afford to become 'armchair gun owners' and sit back and watch our gun rights erode. playhookie - my apologies if you found the question offensive. I was simply, as I thought I stated, questioning why you would complain about this particular news item and none of the other ones that weren't about gun evaluations and opinions - as you implied you expected from this site. We see a lot of stuff reported here that is no more 'gun news-worthy' than this, at least I think so. But if you didn't think it was 'news', I suppose that's a subjective matter and not open to discussion. Have a good day. RJH, I go one step further, and say that owning a gun IS a political statement in and of itself, and is well expressed in our Second Amendment. Tyrants fear us, and those who would willing subject themselves to probable tyranny (a nanny state, a police state, etc.) also fear us. Simply owning a gun says 'you won't rule my life without my consent', and 'if attacked, I will defend my self'. USING that gun says those things loudly. Unfortunately, a lot of people who own guns are the very hypocrites that are trying to take ours away from us. I have never been able to understand the mentality that says....."Oh, I would never have a gun". I find myself wanting to scream at them: Why! A gun is an inanimate object that can be capable of playing an instrumental roll of great good.....or of great evil. It depends on the person in whose hands the gun is being held. The hoplophobes are so prejudiced that they cannot begin to grasp the concept of self-responsibility. For the hoplophobes, it is a matter of somebody else taking care of them.....the police, etc.....but they simply cannot fathom the principle that each of us is endowed with unalienable rights that includes responsibility for our own well being and defense. This isn't a Jew thing. It's a person thing! FM's are violent by nature. You are either part of the mob, or you are their victim. The operative word is "VICTIM". The concept of owning (and knowing how to use) a gun is the difference between being a victim or not. You will not have to kill every person in the mob. But you may have kill some. Pretty quickly the rest will "get the message". And those who don't will be next! You either defend yourself, or you don't. And that means to the bitter, bloody, end. You stand or you run! At the foundation of the arguement is the concept of being free to live in peace and without fear. This freedom is not something you win and then you are free. It is something you must constantly fight to maintain. Hoping, praying, begging, for someone else to protect or save you is not a new concept. It goes way back... From Blacks as slaves in the "New World", to Jews as slaves in Egypt. - If you want to wait hundreds of years (as they did) to be saved you can wait. As for me... Give me liberty, or give me death! (Patrick Henry) BTW: A Saiga 12 with a 20 rd drum mag will clear an FM in a hurry! This isn't a Jew thing. It's a person thing! FM's are violent by nature. You are either part of the mob, or you are their victim. The operative word is "VICTIM". The concept of owning (and knowing how to use) a gun is the difference between being a victim or not. You will not have to kill every person in the mob. But you may have kill some. Pretty quickly the rest will "get the message". And those who don't will be next! You either defend yourself, or you don't. And that means to the bitter, bloody, end. You stand or you run! At the foundation of the arguement is the concept of being free to live in peace and without fear. This freedom is not something you win and then you are free. It is something you must constantly fight to maintain. Hoping, praying, begging, for someone else to protect or save you is not a new concept. It goes way back... From Blacks as slaves in the "New World", to Jews as slaves in Egypt. - If you want to wait hundreds of years (as they did) to be saved you can wait. As for me... Give me liberty, or give me death! (Patrick Henry) BTW: A Saiga 12 with a 20 rd drum mag will clear an FM in a hurry! canovack - I've never understood that mindset either. They hate guns, so they will live in their la-la land and pass off responsibility for their own safety to somebody else. Further, I've never understood why they fail to look at the illegal drug trade (for instance), where drugs are already illegal yet available, and connect the dots to making guns illegal. Somehow, guns are different than everything else??? According to some accounts - and you may remember some of the stories from Clinton's time and even the stories about where Bush was when he was AWOL for nearly two years - some politicians make a lot of money on illegal drugs. So if guns were illegal, prices would probably at least triple, and it would be a good business for those politicos who can get in at the beginning also. That's an interesting point David! Frankly, in the wake of Gunrunner and similar, I've been wondering if our government's interests are as advertised. Perhaps we are secretly trying to profit from illicit drug and arm trades; or more likely, politicians are setting up their empires to profit therefrom. Thanks P V B. I'm aware that I have a tendency to be cynical and suspicious, and sometimes I think it's too much so. I'm often told as much. As a result, I feel vindicated and somewhat 'approved of' when anyone who's opinions I consider worth paying attention to decides to consider mine. I think you've expressed yours well and clearly and that they are worthy of respect, so you statement pleases me. Thanks again. I'm not going to tell any sob-story, but I'll say that so far my untrusting nature wasn't sufficient to protect me from the women I found interesting (boo-frickin-hoo), and I don't think I express enough distrust of politicians compared to what they actually deserve. The last "statesman" left us when Sen. Dirksen died, and the last one who got a chance to run for POTUS was Goldwater. Since then, it's all politicians - the usual suspects, as they say. PVB and david b, I cannot quarrel with what you say. Somewhere in one of the threads of this forum I postulated that all politicians are essentially uninterested in doing what real statesmen do. It seems, these days, that when we elect somebody to the Congress, the only reason they are there is because of all the nice perks that go with the job plus a fat pension. The same can be said of our presidents.....We haven't had a real statesman in the White House since Harry Truman left it in 1952.....and he and Bess walked from the White House to Union Station and paid their own train fare home to Independence Missouri. David - Americans by nature are cynical and suspicious of people or organizations with large amounts of power. It reminds us of why "we" left England in the first place, even if "we" never had English ancestors. Of course, if someone doesn't agree with us, the cynic tag may get thrown out there when the hypocritical side of human nature kicks in! ;) Canovack - I thought Reagan was a pretty good statesman. Much like Truman, his popularity, at least as reflected in the "media" and "polls" wasn't the best while in office, but in hindsight. Of course, I'll defer to your memory on that one... We all should know that gun control works...Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao,Uncle Ho, and others will attest to that. PVB, I'd have to agree with you. Dutch Reagan came pretty damned close to having balls as big as Harry Truman's. I'd guess that I was just being a bit nostalgic about Truman. Now, if Reagan had nuked Qaddafi, instead of just doing a couple of bomb runs with FB-111s, and if he hadn't screwed things up with Iran-Contra, I'd say that he would have been Truman's equal. Canovack - Funny, Qadaffi kept a really, really, really low profile for a loooong time after that bombing! At least Iran-Contra had some noble intent behind the cause, even if it was only vaguely related to keeping communism away from our backyard. Regardless, the level of insidiousness there was nowhere near where it is with Gunrunner, at least in my opinion. My two cents here is that we haven't dug out the bottom of Gun Runner yet - and it may be as dirty as Watergate coverups. On the other hand, I don't think America got the full story on Iran Contra either, or ever will. (E.g., how did Col. North know back then about how dangerous OBL was, but Bush and Cheney didn't know 2o years later? OBL was the reason North provided for installing the security perimeter at his home.) Personally, I do not think there is any excuse for a government that jails folks for getting caught with a joint 3 different times to be selling drugs to those same people. It's illegal, immoral, and just plain 'dirty-icky-nasty' business regardless of how one tries to justify it. Had we caught a Nazi doing that we'd have hanged him outside the Nuremburg court. "Following orders" is no excuse, even if the orders originate in the White House. We just can't have things two different ways at once - if selling drugs to Americans is OK, then it's OK, and we can end the silly-ass War on Drugs. If it isn't, then it isn't, and someone should have been jailed, but skated. I'm not sure EXACTLY who, but someone should have done time. I agree with your comparison of Gunrunner and Iran-Contra, PVB. I also believe, as does david b, that there is much left to be exposed concerning this Gunrunner debacle. Every administration has had some sort of embarrassing scandalous affair come to light sooner or later. I'd guess that it just comes with the turf..... When somebody is elected to the most powerful office on the earth they may have a tendency to think that they can do almost anything.....and get away with it. I do, however, have some difficulty looking back to the Truman administration and finding where "Give Em Hell Harry" willfully committed any scandalous infractions. Maybe I'm just getting too old to remember the details..... I agree with both of you that we only know the tip of the Gunrunner iceberg. My concern is (as both of you have already stated before) that it will be whitewashed by a press that is friendly to the communist regime currently in power. As for Truman and scandals, wellll, the man did propose to disband the entire U.S. Marine Corps, and compared us to Stalin. That's pretty scandalous! I think guys that it's the idea that they should be permitted to skate away from accountability that bothers me most. I'd be willing to admit some 'extenuating circumstances' and let a guy walk - if there was a reason for it. E.g. remember that hypothetical terrorist with a bomb in NYC that Condi Rice used to justify Bush authorizing torture? Well, when friends asked me I said were I POTUS, that I'd skin the guy with a veggie peeler if I had to in order to get the bomb stopped - but I'd do it myself and then when hauled into court or congress I'd tell them what I did and why, and trust that my 'jury' would see things my way. No superior should ever ask anyone in service (gov't or military) to do something he can't or won't, and that "The Buck Stops Here" attitude does a few things: 1) it would mean that none of that nasty or illegal stuff would be done without damned good reason, 2) that no honcho would be too willing to go there, 3) that lower echelons of military or intelligence wouldn't go there at all, and 4) make anyone who did violate the 'damned good reason' policy subject to prison or even execution. But sadly, our leaders all seem to want to do whatever they like, and hide behind 'state secrets', intelligence secrets, and legal hijinks. And of course, that's only because their justifications won't stand up to examination. Which is why we'll never find out who was really behind Gun Walker or Iran Contra, or any number of other things our government is mixed up in or sponsoring. And, david b, what you have stated is what precisely makes so many of us dubious and suspicious of our government. When governments justify their domestic actions with declarations of classification, or by obfuscation and sandbagging, so they don't have to tell us what's going on.....They're doing something of which they would be ashamed were all the information available for all to see. Amen! An Important Note for GunReports.Com Readers: Our goal on this website is to foster a free expression of views while reining in language that crosses the line of civil discourse. Accordingly, the comments areas are intended to expand the knowledge of all users of this site. 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