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Sig Sauer Launches
Factory Short-Barreled Rifles
January 30, 2012
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(GunReports.com) — To meet the increasing interest in short-barreled rifles, SIG SAUER has introduced a line of factory-built SBRs for the consumer market.
“Interest in short-barreled rifles has never been greater,” said Jeff Creamer, SIG SAUER Director of Product Management. “What used to be primarily a military or law enforcement configuration is now being sought by the consumer market.”
As barrel and gas system length is reduced, reliable function can be compromised. Purchasing a factory-built SBR designed from the ground up and fine-tuned to be a short-barreled system greatly increases reliability and function.
SIG SAUER has previously offered complete short-barreled upper receivers for their SIG516 rifles, but this is the first time complete rifles are to be offered in SBR configurations.
Preferred by entry teams and CQB specialists for greater maneuverability in tight places, SBRs deliver significant ballistic performance over pistol-caliber weapons. With the growth of the suppressor market, SBRs have also seen increased interest from those who want a suppressed rifle without introducing additional length.
The Factory SBR Program will offer shortened variants of all SIG SAUER semi-automatic rifles, from the .22LR SIG522™ to the 7.62 NATO SIG716®. Each platform will have a SBR-tuned gas system to ensure maximum performance and reliability.
SBRs are available in Classic, Patrol and SWAT configurations, giving the user a wide variety of options. All NFA rules apply.
With all of this recognition concerning the value of short barrels and suppressors, one might get hopeful that some provisions of NFA34 could be repealed. Since so many of NFA34's provisions are quite arbitrary, it would seem reasonable to review them, with an eye toward revision.....or even repeal of the the entire law. Hmmm.....Wishful thinking. Same thing with respect to GCA68. I've seen some similar things lately and wondered about them - e.g. 'pistols' of 10 to 16" barrel size, in what is normally carbine calibers. I was wondering about the effective range of them, and how they are to shoot. Do any of you guys have experience with these things? And if so please tell us what you think. FYI - I'm not sure the release is 100% accurate. A friend of mine bought a Sig 556 SBR a few years ago that was part of a limited run. I thought Sig did the run, but perhaps they made the upper and somebody else put it on a Sig lower. Canovack - I agree! Of course, "they" would pro-forma the tax receipts lost if they did away with the heinous, unconstitutional process... David - I'm not a big fan of "rifle" "pistols" (if I may). I find them a bit unwieldy to fire accurately and safely. They naturally lend themselves to hip shooting, which though fun, is neither inherently accurate nor safe. You also need to be very careful with running afoul of the law. For example, suppose you have an AR-15 "pistol" with rails on the front. Perhaps obviously, affixing a stock makes it an SBR, and is thus illegal without first obtaining an ATF stamp. However, you also are not allowed to attach a foregrip. The latter seems obscure and senseless, and I'm sure plenty of AR or AK "pistol" owners could easily find themselves in an inadvertent pickle. Now; an SBR is another matter. The short barrel is obviously more maneuverable, especially if you choose to suppress it. In confined spaces, both are desirable. At "short" ranges, the accuracy is more than adequate. Of course for you, being a Nutmegger, I don't believe either suppressors or SBR's are a legal option. P V B - Suppressors would be illegal. But I've seen the Kel-tec 'pistol' in stores here. Somehow it qualifies as a handgun, as do those Draco pistols from Century Arms. However, unwieldly is unwieldly. One more question - what is a "short" range as you describe it? I've seen these things in .223 and 7.62x39 calibers, so it would seem that a 'short' range for those is about 100 yds? Was that what you had in mind when you wrote what you did? I have a Draco and a Sig 556 SBR. I will give a report if I can ever get to a gun range. In your hands, they feel very good and with a red dot are probably a kick ass weapon. BTW. Did anyone see the news clips of that arrogant SOB Holder testifying before a congressional committee today? They should push that asshole over a cliff. 100-ish is what I was thinking. The "pistols" are legally pistols, because they do not have a shoulder-ready stock and the barrel is under 16" long. There are some exceptions for C&R guns (Curio & Relic) such as (maybe) a Broomhandle Mauser with its original detachable shoulder stock, but that's another topic entirely... I have a Kel-Tec PLR-16, and it is a real hoot to shoot. It is essentially a polymer framed AR, but with a gas piston. Using metallic sights and optics can be challenging, unless you are well supported at a shooting bench. I have installed a xenon lamp and laser on mine, and it shoots to the point of the laser just fine. As you might imagine, its likely mission is defensed against zombies. It accepts M16 magazines, so you can lay out a hail of bullets with it, and it can be fairly accurate if held close into the body when squeezing off rounds. A possible problem area can arise if you install a vertical grip on the forend.....a "No No" according to NFA34. Now you got me thinking, so I went to AWC's website. There are 30-some states that allow suppressors, and CT is on that list. (Though my memory may not be correct, and you may be in VT now...) New England states absent are Mass, RI, and Vermont. Also, just because it is legal, does not mean "shall issue" and local officials may simply refuse to sign your application. http://www.awcsystech.com/about/civilian-ownership/ I would like to have a supressor but I just don't want the FEDS knowing anything else about me than they already know. Hey, Cecil..... Your dossier is quite well up-to-date. Here is another bit of info that most of you probably already know. I have a friend that owns a street legal, internally supressed Ruger .22. We fired it using standard .22 ammo and it was noisy. You have to use sub-sonic (950 ft/sec) ammo to get the movie, swish sound. I didn't know that before. I am in CT, so a suppressor would I guess be legal. But with both concealed and open carry legal here, some locals still confiscate firearms, so I'd worry about having the suppressor. Besides, if I need a pistol with carbine ammo I think I want the noise so my neighbors come out to see the fuss, and also call the locals. If the zombies are attacking, I want all the witnesses and help I can get. And then there's that thing about the feds knowing I have it. I'd rather make my own, and bury a few once they're known to work properly. I need to watch that Zombie thing again since I missed the beginning. I don't know if it was for real (it seemed to be) or a spoof. But they did go into the realm of the head shots to stop them. Cecil B - if you can find the name of the program I'd be interested in watching it too. It might even be online - maybe on YouTube. davidb, I can't remember the name of the program but I will let you know if I see it again and on what channel. You might be able to find it if you google Zombie Virus. It seemed to indicate that a virus has already been developed by us or the Russians or christ knows who. I was about half asleep when it was on. Sorry. Cecil - that depends on the make of the suppressor. For instance, AWC's design parameters are for high velocity .22 ammo, and they advise against subsonic rounds. The only noise I hear from my Amphibian is the crack the bullet makes at the speed of sound, and only if there is a sound barrier to "echo" it back to me. If I fire into the woods, especially with snow on the ground, I hear nothing more than the cycling bolt and the bullet when it hits a tree. Incidentally, the speed of sound is 1117 fps on a standard sea level day, and a lot of .22 ammo velocities are based on rifle barrels... Other than some rimfires, the "swish" sound is pure Hollywood. You can bleed off energy, but not enough to completely "silence" the gunfire, which is why some insist on the term suppressor. (I know, a reciprocating saw is a sawzall, even if it's not really a Milwaukee Sawzall...) The main purposes of a suppressor are hearing protection and obfuscation of your position. Because much energy has been bled away, the gunfire will sound further away and be more difficult to pinpoint. Also, you lose velocity, which will degrade terminal ballistics. Oh, and less recoil means quicker follow-up shots on the zombies! It had to be a spoof - were you asleep after drinking a nice cold beer? ;) Man PVB, you know a lot of stuff. I would just like to be able to plink in my backyard without the neighbors calling the gendarmes. But I sure do appreciate the information. Did you know that you can buy supressors in Denmark and Norway and a couple of other N. E. countries by just going to the store, plunking down $40 or $50 and walk out the door. No govt paperwork. They take the position that they don't want to damage hearing or create noise I guess. Wish we were so enlightened. I had been drinking a little vodka when that show was on, plus I was a little under the weather. But it was on for 2 hours so I am not certain if a entire spoof or not. I think it was trying to say that lots of evil shit has been created in bio labs that could wreak havoc on civilization. Thanks again. Yes, I have heard that suppressors are commonplace in Europe. Makes ya wonder.... I read somewhere that we didn't even have an ATF agency until after Prohibition was repealed. It seems there were too many feds on the payroll without jobs, so they had to find something to do. And that something was to tax firearms sales, which of course led to restrictions justifying higher taxes on some stuff. THAT led to prohibited firearms to justify agency growth. And decades later, we have the bloated, incompetent and malicious BATFE. If memory serves me correctly, the Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco likely was a spin-off of the old Prohibition era. Back when I was actively fighting what came to be GCA68, it was learned that the enforcement of GCA68 would be handled by BAT, so the feds added firearms to the mix, and it became BATF. I don't think explosives were added until just a few years ago, making it the BATFE. I think the "E" was added courtesy of Timothy McVeigh. The DEA was also an outcrop of the end of prohibition. Ganja was leagal in the 20s and tons of people smoked it. DEA was created in the '70's. "Mary Jane" was made illegal by FDR, I think in '37. It was illegal in about half the states before that time. Efforts to regulate it go back to the mid 1800's, and could very well be tied to protecting a burgeoning pharmaceutical industry. True, the agency was funded in the 70s but the same guys that were chasing guns in the 30 were also chasing dope. A whole range of drugs got whipped into line including coke. Had to put those feds back to work. 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